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I just found this on the Ubi forums and its kinda sweet! Some guy went through the data files of Vegas 2 and found some interesting data on the waepons.

This is the main-thread:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...6/m/1241044446

Shotgun+Sniper analysis:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...546#6831018546

These two links contains all the numbers (and you can also fin the .ini file in the thread). If you are not a big fan of numbers, then just read his discussions on all the weapon types:

SMG discussion:
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-MP5N , TYpe05 and P90 all deal around 30-25 damage (with long range damage between 1/2 or 1/4 of that, SMGs just aren't effective long range weapons). MP5N doesn't come to good start, Type 05 has 20 more bullets with the only drawback being slightly worse recoil and the other stats basically identical. But the P90 has less bullet spread than the two, aims faster and a notable increase in fire rate with the only drawbacsk being a reloading taking a second longer and a bigger initial bullet spread (which is rather trivial)
-MP9 and MP7 has a fire rate between the MP5N and P90 but with a slightly higher damage. MP7 deals tiny more damage than MP9 at close range while the MP9 deals more damage in the 5-50 metre range. But on the other hand, the MP7A1 has less recoil and 10 more ammo.
-AUG Para deals a tiny amount of more damage than the MP9, but slightly worse fire rate, a bit less ammo and worse recoil.
-UMP45 is kinda like how the MP9 is to the MP7 only with a bigger difference. Some more damage (highest damage of the SMGs actually), but worse recoil, less ammo, worse fire rate and aims a bit slower.
-Mac11 and Skorpion are the fastest firing SMGs, slightly faster than the P90. Oddly enough the 2 weapons are identical except for the Mac11 having 2 more bullets when not using a high capacity mag (with a high capacity mag they're both identical). The weapons' strength is obviously the high fire rate, but the other stats are just really bad compared to the P90. 20 less ammo, worse recoil and slightly less damage.

Bottom line:
-There's certain guns you can forget about right away. Mac11 and Skorpion are pretty much useless compared to the P90, unless you're RIGHT in the enemy's face and have a strong need for a slightly faster fire rate. MP5 doesn't deal a lot of damage and has a rather small magazine, and again pales in comparison with the P90. Aug Para is just plainly bad compared to the MP9 and MP7.
-So we get down to the fact than P90 has excellent fire rate, recoil and ammo. While the MP7A1 deals a bit more damage, but has worse fire rate, recoil and less ammo... MP9 is the same thing only with a bigger difference, and the UMP45 has an even bigger difference. Overall, there's no denying that P90 looks like the winner.

What attachment to use?
-Since many of the SMGs fire fast and have good autoaim it can be tempting to go for the high capacity magazine and that's definitely a good choice. If you're having a hard time hitting anything, you can add a laser sight to make the autoaim almost twice as powerful. Scopes and silencer is something you'll rarely have use for but the choice is there.

Assault Rifle discussion:

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-One thing you'll quickly notice compared to all other types of guns is that ARs actually vary a lot when it comes to how quickly each gun aims. Worst being 6.4 and the best being 8. That's a very big difference, and most of them have small differences compared to eachother. Since how quickly a gun aims is pretty significant I decided to order them based on that stat.
-First of all, the 2 ARs with the worst aiming (somewhere between that of a handgun and an SMG): the SCAR and G3. The SCAR fires faster, but the G3 has less recoil, reloads faster, penetrates surfaces slightly better and slightly better autoaim. Seems balanced enough so far.
-552 Commando has the exact same aim speed as most of the SMGs. Its other stats are very similar to the SCAR only it does less damage at longer range than 5 metres.
-AUGA3 has a faster aim speed and less recoil, but also less damage and not a great fire rate.
-G36C, AK47, AK74U, M468 and FNC share the same aim speed which is significantly faster than a normal SMG (just *barely* slower than the aim speed of the best SMG: P90) and should feel very comfortable to aim with. The 2 AKs stand out right away with the highest damage of all ARs but that damage is reduced to what a normal AR does when it comes to long range. The AKs have nearly identical stats, the 47 has *slightly* better recoil with *slightly* worse recoil recovery, but the difference is tiny.
-G36C stands out as well as the one with the least recoil of all the ARs and its fire rate isn't bad.
-The FNC and M468 doesn't compare that well unfortunately. Similar stats as the AKs but with less damage and a small advantage with a smaller initial bullet spread. FNC stands out even worse, as its stats are all indentical to the M468 with the exception of a slightly worse recoil.
-And then we proceed to the next bunch of ARs. TAR21, Famas, L85A2 and M8 share the highest aim speed of all weapons in the entire game, and they have generally less recoil than all the other ARs. You'll get aim extremely fast once you stand still with theses weapons. Compared to the other weapons, they all have the disadvantage of a decrease in damage, but not a major decrease.
-There's 2 guns we can forget about early. M8 has similar stats as the Famas only with a worse fire rate.
-L85A2 has a tiny bit more damage output than the TAR21 but fires much slower and has 5 less ammo.
-So, the Famas or TAR21 then? Simple choice. Famas has a slight damage advantage, more autoaim, reloads faster, less recoil, faster fire rate... and 5 less ammo. Yeah, the Famas is better than the TAR21.

Bottom line:
-So what about the big picture then? Well, first of all, there are several which are just plain worse than others. G3 is inferior to the AKs. L85, M8 and TAR21 are all definitely inferior to the Famas. After that it starts to get a bit blurry.
-AKs deal the most damage and aims slightly fast but with a slow fire rate and some bad recoil. AUGA3 fires a bit faster than the AKs but deal less damage and aims slower.
-SCAR and 552 Commando also has bad recoil and aims a bit slow, but fires even faster and their damage isn't bad.
-M468 aims fast but also has bad recoil and bad fire rate.
-G63C and Famas has the least damage, but they both aim fast and fire fast, although the Famas aims even faster and fires much faster. But then again, the G63C has the least recoil and more ammo.
-It's not as easy to announce the winner in this category, most weapons aren't that bad when compared. Although the Famas does stand out with its very high fire rate and fast aim, so it'll take the crown for now, just be sure to use a high magazine clip, with that fire rate you'll need the extra ammo. But most of the other ARs are very good choices as well.




Shotgun discussion:
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-SPAS12 deals the most damage of all the shotguns. 870MCS has similar stats but deals less damage, definitely a shotgun to skip.
-M3 deals less damage, but slightly slower fire rate. 500 Tactical deals even less damage but fires even faster.
-XM26LSS deals the least amount of damage (about half of the SPAS12) but its fire rate is twice as fast as the SPAS12. But it's the only shotgun with really bad penetration and it has even less ammo than the other shotguns.

Bottom line:
-What's the best one? Well, depends on what you think is most effective at killing. Do you feel confident you'll hit with the first shot so you might as well go with the highest damage to make sure the target dies? Or go with a faster one in case you miss? I'd personally go with the Spas 12. But the other choices aren't bad. Except for the 870MCS, skip that one.

Attachment to use?
-Scope on a shotgun is not very useful. There's no fun in aiming at a target and seeing the buckshot land everywhere else. Laser sight is more than pointless because the shotguns has no accuracy, so when the laser sight double the accuracy... well, you still got zero accuracy.

Sniper Discussion:

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-All of these are bolt-action except for the PSG1 and SR25SD. I'll compare the bolt-action ones first.
-M40A1, L96 and Scout Tactial share the highest damage of the sniper rifles. Actually, those 3 sniper rifles are 100% identical.
-SV98 deals the least damage of the bolt-action rifles and... it's got nothing to make up for it. Well, it has smaller bullet spread but that's trivial with that low rate of fire. The gun looks cool though.
-PSG1 deals about 2/10 less damage but fires 3 times as fast as the bolt-action rifles since it's semi-automatic. Clearly superior.
-SR25SD is silenced and deals less damage at really far range. I'm assuming there's also a 30% damage reduction because it's silenced.

Bottom line:
-All the bolt-action rifles are clearly inferior. Especially the SV98.
-So the choice is between the PSG1 and SR25SD. Silencer or 30% damage? Even with a silencer the SR25SD deals a lot of damage so I'd go with that.

Which attachment to use?
-Well, the only difference is how much zoom you want on the scope. So go with whatever you need. I personally think 6x is more than enough.


Final Thoughts:

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For those who don't wanna read through all the details about the weapons, here's a very quick summary about which weapons are generally the best to use.

The best handgun is definitely the Desert Eagle or Raging Bull. If you wanna be the underdog and kill with what's the worst handgun, go for the P99.

Best SMG is definitely the P90. Its low recoil and fast rate of fire definitely makes up for its weaker damage. The underdog among the SMGs is a bit harder to see, but it would probably be the MP5N.

Best AR seems to be the Famas with its extreme fire rate, low recoil and fast aim. The underdog award goes to G3 with its okay damage, and rest of the stats being awful.

Best LMG award goes to MK46, but there's really no distinct advantage with it. Underdog award goes to M249 as its similar to the MK46... just worse.

Best shotgun goes to SPAS12. But as with LMGs there's no big difference. With the exception of the 870MCS which is definitely the underdog.

Best sniper rifle goes to SR-25 SD. SV-98 is most definitely the worst sniper rifle.

Shotgun discussion:
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-SPAS12 deals the most damage of all the shotguns. 870MCS has similar stats but deals less damage, definitely a shotgun to skip.
-M3 deals less damage, but slightly slower fire rate. 500 Tactical deals even less damage but fires even faster.
-XM26LSS deals the least amount of damage (about half of the SPAS12) but its fire rate is twice as fast as the SPAS12. But it's the only shotgun with really bad penetration and it has even less ammo than the other shotguns.

Bottom line:
-What's the best one? Well, depends on what you think is most effective at killing. Do you feel confident you'll hit with the first shot so you might as well go with the highest damage to make sure the target dies? Or go with a faster one in case you miss? I'd personally go with the Spas 12. But the other choices aren't bad. Except for the 870MCS, skip that one.

Attachment to use?
-Scope on a shotgun is not very useful. There's no fun in aiming at a target and seeing the buckshot land everywhere else. Laser sight is more than pointless because the shotguns has no accuracy, so when the laser sight double the accuracy... well, you still got zero accuracy.

Sniper Discussion:

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-All of these are bolt-action except for the PSG1 and SR25SD. I'll compare the bolt-action ones first.
-M40A1, L96 and Scout Tactial share the highest damage of the sniper rifles. Actually, those 3 sniper rifles are 100% identical.
-SV98 deals the least damage of the bolt-action rifles and... it's got nothing to make up for it. Well, it has smaller bullet spread but that's trivial with that low rate of fire. The gun looks cool though.
-PSG1 deals about 2/10 less damage but fires 3 times as fast as the bolt-action rifles since it's semi-automatic. Clearly superior.
-SR25SD is silenced and deals less damage at really far range. I'm assuming there's also a 30% damage reduction because it's silenced.

Bottom line:
-All the bolt-action rifles are clearly inferior. Especially the SV98.
-So the choice is between the PSG1 and SR25SD. Silencer or 30% damage? Even with a silencer the SR25SD deals a lot of damage so I'd go with that.

Which attachment to use?
-Well, the only difference is how much zoom you want on the scope. So go with whatever you need. I personally think 6x is more than enough.


Final Thoughts:

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For those who don't wanna read through all the details about the weapons, here's a very quick summary about which weapons are generally the best to use.

The best handgun is definitely the Desert Eagle or Raging Bull. If you wanna be the underdog and kill with what's the worst handgun, go for the P99.

Best SMG is definitely the P90. Its low recoil and fast rate of fire definitely makes up for its weaker damage. The underdog among the SMGs is a bit harder to see, but it would probably be the MP5N.

Best AR seems to be the Famas with its extreme fire rate, low recoil and fast aim. The underdog award goes to G3 with its okay damage, and rest of the stats being awful.

Best LMG award goes to MK46, but there's really no distinct advantage with it. Underdog award goes to M249 as its similar to the MK46... just worse.

Best shotgun goes to SPAS12. But as with LMGs there's no big difference. With the exception of the 870MCS which is definitely the underdog.

Best sniper rifle goes to SR-25 SD. SV-98 is most definitely the worst sniper rifle.

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oops posted the last bit twice anyway:
And for all those that don't want to read numbers or letters: http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?i...2twswebvq1.jpg

Lazy bastards :P

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these are all opinions right ? no way is the fammas better than the FNC .

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no there facts.....

well not really. you can have someone shit using a fammas but FNC with a good guy raping him . there for this an opinion. not everyone will agree with this.

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no i never said that this was about personal skill you fag read what i posted this is ingame stats.